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Exile Of Heaven · Jul 20, 2006, 03:22 PM // 15:22

Ive gone with those 2 "insane" Guys:P
Its true for sure in my oppinion becuz ive seen it with my own eye

Well. next time i go ill see if i can get gamecam on:P

pasha monkey · Jul 20, 2006, 05:42 PM // 17:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrogDevourer

Original screenshot from "Son of Mephisto":
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/a...8&d=1153117679
"pasha monkey" version (identical screenshot taken by another player? strange)
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/3640/gw074newml9.png
New screenshot from this thread:
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9476/dejavual1.png

Zoom of the original screenshot:

Zoom of the latest screenshot:

Original claim from "Son of Mephisto":
i do it everynight!!!!

-> translate : "it's so easy that you suck if you can't reproduce it"
New statement from this thread:
"This is not easy to do, we made the guide and still fail this on a regular basis. " -> translate : don't be surprised if you can't reproduce it

Now believe what you want.

Has any trustworthy community member been able to observe or to reproduce this, or is there a long and high quality video to confirm this?

Until then, and based on the content of previous posts, I'll think that you just did a better job with photoshop. I'm usually not that skeptical, but this is the fourth thread on this subject, and there is only one coherent and intelligible post which provides a barely decent proof. For the records, I could remove the ranger from these screenshots without much effort (zomg, you can duo Urgoz!!!). And one hour with a full guild group would give me enough material to pretend I soloed any place in the game. I'd like to remind that a screenshot is not a proof.

If this guide not a fake, and if we do get a decent proof from somebody we can trust, then what was done in previous threads is probably one of the crappiest way to promote this build. Fake or not, the effort put in this thread is not comparable to what has been done so far, and that's why it won't be closed.

wow, dude, you don't take a break do you? tell you what, I'll tank it for you, my monk's ingame name is crazyteck faith, chances are we won't make it horribly far cause it really is hard. But we can clear the first few rooms pretty quickly. As for "we do it every night", he meant we attempt it every night, i only WISH i had that many urgoz bows

excuse the late notice, but the more i read through these posts, the more i notice that our critics seem bent on stating the obvious as some sort of proof against us. All those screenshots were taken by son of mephisto, if you really pay attention, u notice that i implicitly stated that, or that it is pretty obvious. I admitted to being the tank, if you pay attention to the POV of the screenshots, or the skill bar, u notice that the main character is that smiter, also that his name is phifty phive monk, mephisto's character.

Anarion Silverhand · Jul 20, 2006, 07:35 PM // 19:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucifer PVP

ill see if it is possible to clear the first few rooms with gamecam

<Tagging along, Spawn.

Silontes · Jul 20, 2006, 08:07 PM // 20:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrogDevourer

Original screenshot from "Son of Mephisto":
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/a...8&d=1153117679
"pasha monkey" version (identical screenshot taken by another player? strange)
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/3640/gw074newml9.png
New screenshot from this thread:
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9476/dejavual1.png

Zoom of the original screenshot:

Zoom of the latest screenshot:

Original claim from "Son of Mephisto":
i do it everynight!!!!

-> translate : "it's so easy that you suck if you can't reproduce it"
New statement from this thread:
"This is not easy to do, we made the guide and still fail this on a regular basis. " -> translate : don't be surprised if you can't reproduce it

Now believe what you want.

Has any trustworthy community member been able to observe or to reproduce this, or is there a long and high quality video to confirm this?

Until then, and based on the content of previous posts, I'll think that you just did a better job with photoshop. I'm usually not that skeptical, but this is the fourth thread on this subject, and there is only one coherent and intelligible post which provides a barely decent proof. For the records, I could remove the ranger from these screenshots without much effort (zomg, you can duo Urgoz!!!). And one hour with a full guild group would give me enough material to pretend I soloed any place in the game. I'd like to remind that a screenshot is not a proof.

If this guide not a fake, and if we do get a decent proof from somebody we can trust, then what was done in previous threads is probably one of the crappiest way to promote this build. Fake or not, the effort put in this thread is not comparable to what has been done so far, and that's why it won't be closed.

If screenshots aren't proof, then why are you also using screenshots to prove that he is "faking" the pictures?

, and I don't get what you are trying to prove in your screenshots. Please explain.

Even without a video, the builds he posted and how it works make sense.

pork soldier · Jul 20, 2006, 08:14 PM // 20:14

I see jpeg artifacts and nothing else special about those pieces of screenshots, I really don't understand what you're trying to prove there.

Sily Wabbit · Jul 20, 2006, 08:17 PM // 20:17

shes showing that the one he posted earlier was not as clear as the one he posted in this thread, leading people to believe the last one was faked because the chat box looked altered, on the one in this thread it isn't, or is atleast clearer for some reason.

imo, I think its kinda funny. you coulda saved alot of time with just posting an actual build that can be verifed, instead of just trying to show your e-peen by posting 3 earlier threads with no screenshots or modified screenshots saying its possible, yet I don't wanna show you guys. I wonder if you woulda posted this build at all if not for people disbelieveing you, in which they should have every right to with the last couple threads you've/friends have posted.

Silontes · Jul 20, 2006, 08:23 PM // 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sily Wabbit

shes showing that the one he posted earlier was not as clear as the one he posted in this thread, leading people to believe the last one was faked because the chat box looked altered, on the one in this thread it isn't, or is atleast clearer for some reason.

imo, I think its kinda funny. you coulda saved alot of time with just posting an actual build that can be verifed, instead of just trying to show your e-peen by posting 3 earlier threads with no screenshots or modified screenshots saying its possible, yet I don't wanna show you guys. I wonder if you woulda posted this build at all if not for people disbelieveing you, in which they should have every right to with the last couple threads you've/friends have posted.

Thing is, they did have screenshots. No one believed them. He had no choice but to post the builds to prove that it works. If I were one of the three, I would never reveal the build, regardless how many people do not believe. Knowledge = Power.

Sily Wabbit · Jul 20, 2006, 08:32 PM // 20:32

he posted a screenshot, that looked edited, with the build and everything blurred out. and even then, whats the point of that if your not gonna share the build with the community?

whole fiasco summed up pretty much:
HEY GUYZ, I CAN 3 MAN URGOZ, LOOK HOW COOL I AM!
oh, but no, I won't reveal my build!!1! lolz suckerz!
oh wait, you guyz don't beleive me? fine I'll post it just to prove I wasn't lying

Zinger314 · Jul 20, 2006, 08:39 PM // 20:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silontes

Thing is, they did have screenshots. No one believed them. He had no choice but to post the builds to prove that it works. If I were one of the three, I would never reveal the build, regardless how many people do not believe. Knowledge = Power.

This is the internet. Knowledge = e-peen.

Ecksor · Jul 20, 2006, 08:45 PM // 20:45

uuuum how about you post a screenshot of urgoz being dead? i mean this is to 3-man the place and him, and you dont even have a picture of him dead.

pasha monkey · Jul 20, 2006, 08:49 PM // 20:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sily Wabbit

he posted a screenshot, that looked edited, with the build and everything blurred out. and even then, whats the point of that if your not gonna share the build with the community?

whole fiasco summed up pretty much:
HEY GUYZ, I CAN 3 MAN URGOZ, LOOK HOW COOL I AM!
oh, but no, I won't reveal my build!!1! lolz suckerz!
oh wait, you guyz don't beleive me? fine I'll post it just to prove I wasn't lying

I'm not sure whether it was explicitly stated, but we always intended to reveal the build. As for the images.... the post had no image and was closed b4 one was added. The first image was posted in low resolution. The image I posted would probably have had the same affect as the one that was now given a decent amount of credibility, funny how frog devouror left that out. And yeah, we wanted to get attention to this build before we posted it. I don't think that was ever really in question. And I'd say it worked, those that believed us or stayed open-minded got curious and stoked. And about getting a screenie of urgoz dead. Well, we're having trouble duplicating our success too. Between the general difficulty of the build and various glitches that scrwe us over along the way, we usually don't get that far.

Sily Wabbit · Jul 20, 2006, 08:53 PM // 20:53

posting screens beforehand without the build even with the intention to post it later on is only gonna cause drama and make yourself to look like a fake. I don't see the logic of that. 3 man Urgoz seems to be a pretty big feat, your not working for some game company trying to hype up a game before release, posting just the build would get people stoked and willing to try it.

Silontes · Jul 20, 2006, 08:54 PM // 20:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinger314

This is the internet. Knowledge = e-peen.

It has nothing to do with the Internet. Knowledge =/= e-peen. If knowledge = e-peen. Then hello to you, Ministry of "E-peen".

Zinger314 · Jul 20, 2006, 09:01 PM // 21:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by pasha monkey

The first image was posted in low resolution.

...that's your excuse and your rationale that the first picture was not photoshopped?

Kariston The Swift · Jul 20, 2006, 11:45 PM // 23:45

I know I'm not a trustworthy source or anything but I can verify that you can clear the first 4 rooms with this build. I did it today with some friends but it is hard as hell for first timers :/ Took us 3 hours just to get that far.

AceeBlueEagle · Jul 21, 2006, 12:40 AM // 00:40

Wow... crow anyone? From the looks of this and the previous thread, there sure seems to be a lot of hungry people.

Lucifer PVP · Jul 21, 2006, 12:47 AM // 00:47

yes it is possible cleared 1st room almost ... the spirits of disenchantment make it hard but it is very much possible. i have a video of 1st room if a mod pms me i can give them my ftp address.

We killed the 1st big mod and part of the 2nd one on the 1st attempt

2nd attempted cleared 1st room still alive... for now..
working on 2nd room

FrogDevourer · Jul 21, 2006, 01:17 AM // 01:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by pasha monkey

wow, dude, you don't take a break do you?

Usually I would just ignore this thread like I do for the others. Yet considering the fact it's at least the fourth thread about this topic, and considering the quality of what has been posted in the other three, I just want to get some solid proof (either way). Honestly, I really don't care about you being able to kill Urgoz with 3, 2 or even one player. Farming this place is one of the least interesting, exciting and rewarding thing I can imagine in this game.

I just want to highlight that when someone claims such a performance to be true, then he'd better give some solid proof, and provide a consistent demonstration. After all, if you're posting here instead of keeping your build secret like all decent farmers would, then at least don't make a fool of yourself like this guy did here.

So far I've seen a handful screenshots (very very few considering the original claims), all of which I could alter to remove one more character, not to mention the fact that one of them has been posted three times, from two different players, and with obvious differences and a very suspicious black box and red halo on the original image. Of course the artefacts disappeared only after I highlighted them on the original images.

It started with a claim that you could farm Urgoz on a regular basis with three players, and now you're stating that it's so hard you'll unlikely be able to go farther than the first few rooms. No offense, but I'm becoming more and more skeptical each time I look in this thread.

Come on, if you're killing Urgoz so easily, share your achievement with us and post a flood of uncompressed screenshots in the last chambers, and a video of you three killing Urgoz. Make farmer wannabes drools looking at your superb strategy. Meanwhile I'll be happy to watch your team's communication skill improve. It started with a post unworthy of an AOL chat room, it developped with a very poor screenshot, and it will hopefully end with a complete demonstration.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pasha monkey

tell you what, I'll tank it for you, my monk's ingame name is crazyteck faith, chances are we won't make it horribly far cause it really is hard. But we can clear the first few rooms pretty quickly.

No thanks, I'm not interested in the first chambers. I want to see Urgoz dead and killed by three people, either in a high quality video or confirmed by someone that can be trusted (a staff member or somebody who's been around and active long enough to deserve some credit). If this build is so good, I trust somebody else will be able to do it for you.

Lucifer PVP · Jul 21, 2006, 01:25 AM // 01:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrogDevourer

Usually I would just ignore this thread like I do for the others. Yet considering the fact it's at least the fourth thread about this topic, and considering the quality of what has been posted in the other three, I just want to get some solid proof (either way). Honestly, I really don't care about you being able to kill Urgoz with 3, 2 or even one player. Farming this place is one of the least interesting, exciting and rewarding thing I can imagine in this game.

I just want to highlight that when someone claims such a performance to be true, then he'd better give some solid proof, and provide a consistent demonstration. After all, if you're posting here instead of keeping your build secret like all decent farmers would, then at least don't make a fool of yourself like this guy did here.

So far I've seen a handful screenshots (very very few considering the original claims), all of which I could alter to remove one more character, not to mention the fact that one of them has been posted three times, from two different players, and with obvious differences and a very suspicious black box and red halo on the original image. Of course the artefacts disappeared only after I highlighted them on the original images.

It started with a claim that you could farm Urgoz on a regular basis with three players, and now you're stating that it's so hard you'll unlikely be able to go farther than the first few rooms. No offense, but I'm becoming more and more skeptical each time I look in this thread.

Come on, if you're killing Urgoz so easily, share your achievement with us and post a flood of uncompressed screenshots in the last chambers, and a video of you three killing Urgoz. Make farmer wannabes drools looking at your superb strategy. Meanwhile I'll be happy to watch your team's communication skill improve. It started with a post unworthy of an AOL chat room, it developped with a very poor screenshot, and it will hopefully end with a complete demonstration.

No thanks, I'm not interested in the first chambers. I want to see Urgoz dead and killed by three people, either in a high quality video or confirmed by someone that can be trusted (a staff member or somebody who's been around and active long enough to deserve some credit). If this build is so good, I trust somebody else will be able to do it for you.

Well i know royal (since before aug 05 guests with my guild)from your guild and i am doing a video right now, and it does seem very possible. A ss necro in addition would speed things up alot. The build in general is very hard to do and not everyone is going to be able to just do it. With a sick amount of practice i believe it is very possible. This isn't your b/p tombs group. I just wanted to test the build on the 1st few rooms and will give it a go on saturday when we have more time.

Anarion Silverhand · Jul 21, 2006, 01:30 AM // 01:30

I can vouch for this.

Me, Spawn and 1 other managed to clear the first room, but we're still working on the 2nd.